Friday, May 15, 2015

Rep. Kremer: no exceptions for 20 week abortion ban, even for Fatal Fetal Abnormalities. Suggests Perinatal Hospice.

Wisconsin Republicans are about to go the full distance reigning a women’s right to choose. Get familiar with the term, “perinatal or prenatal hospice.” It’s another right wing excuse to intimidate and torture women victimized by a 20 week abortion ban.
There’s nothing wrong with perinatal hospice services for women dealing with fatal fetal abnormalities. For personal reasons, prenatal hospice might be one person’s answer. But in Wisconsin, it’s being used to justify a 20 week abortion ban and to appear sympathetic, all the while forcing women to carry their pregnancy to term.

From WPR News, this jaw dropping story and grotesque comment from Rep. Jesse Kremer.
“It’s assistance for the family…from the time that the diagnosis is made, through the entire rest of the pregnancy, through the eventual probable death of the child.”  

Brutal. Extending the sadness and helplessness for days and many weeks is beyond cruel and unusual punishment. 

Think Progress wrote about this trending anti-abortion twist of torment:
Two obscure abortion proposals are currently advancing in Oklahoma and Alabama that would target women during some of the most emotionally painful moments in their lives. Both bills seek to prohibit women from having an abortion based on fatal fetal abnormalities unless their doctor provides them with “alternate options” first — essentially, information about perinatal hospice centers … some women and their partners decide that it is too emotionally painful to continue the pregnancy, or want to spare their unborn child future suffering outside of the womb. Those people make the extremely difficult choice to terminate a wanted pregnancy because they decide it’s the most compassionate option for their family.
Makes sense, right? But republican politicians know what’s best, not women:
State lawmakers are ultimately suggesting that the women … should hear more information about perinatal hospice care. State-sanctioned language about carrying the pregnancy to term would simply insinuate they’re making the wrong decision, potentially putting them under even more emotional strain. Elizabeth Nash, the states issue manager for the Guttmacher Institute, told ThinkProgress, “It revisits painful issues that have already been decided. A woman has already ridden the roller coaster — she got a diagnosis, talked it over with her doctor, and made her decision… It doesn’t make sense to re-open these wounds.”
It’s easy to follow the slug like slim that trails former and current republican administrations:
In 2006, Minnesota was the first to enact a law requiring women to receive information about perinatal hospice centers. Then Kansas followed in its footsteps in 2009. Arizona passed its own version in 2012 … thanks to Americans United for Life (AUL), an anti-choice organization that typically shops around draft legislation for state-level abortion restrictions. AUL produced a legislative guide for the 2014 session to encourage more lawmakers to introduce “perinatal hospice information” bills.
Is there ever an original idea from these freeloading big government one-size-fits-all republicans? 


  1. Didn't you just make the point of how the government should not come between a doctor and a patient?

  2. I've always made that point, and this example shows us how republicans do get between the dr. and patient. Understand the ACA doesn't interfere, it only deals with insurance companies requiring general coverage.

    Understand too that universal health care also does not get between a patient and doctor. Payments are directed from the government insurer to the hospitals and doctors. That's why every other industrialized country not only spends less, but does not ration care.

    Big government abortion bans that defy facts, 20 weeks for fetal pain is wrong but 26-28 weeks is right, is social engineering using religion as a backstop. There's no excuse. And the GOP is great at doing what they say they aren't, because the media is lazy as shit.

  3. Yeah right. As long as you like watching your premiums double or don't mind seeing a team of doctors instead of the one you've had for years. Or you can pay for a plan that has your doctor in it. Glad I found a new plan in the private sector with my doctor otherwise I would be paying twice as much in premiums from the plan I had for years.

    Does every other industrialized country have the world's reserve currency? Perhaps you should move to one of those countries and see how wonderful it is. Spend some time in Cuba or Canada or the UK then get back to us and tell us about all the other wonderful things they have.

    Typical liberal hypocrite. Only sees what he wants to see. I won't waste any more time on trying to convince you of how stupid you are. I'll wait for the next one. But check out some comments here. A lot of people disagree with you.

  4. I've been in the individual market for 20 years, and have had to shop for insurance almost every year because of massive premium increases.

    You're disjointed comment doesn't make any sense. Private sector plan? Cheaper? Lunacy.

    Yes, all those other countries think were idiots with our profit based system of care, where we make money off of sick people. Love that. And you still trot out the tired and disproved lies about their horrible systems. No one goes bankrupt too. Try reading sometime.

    Hypocrite over what? That doesn't make any sense. Name calling? Really?

    Your right wing websites don't have anything that resembles reality. It really is an echo chamber. Actually, you're wasting my time. Please don't respond anymore, you have nothing but talking points.

    Universal health insurance lets you keep you doctor forever, without employer coverage or the ACA.

  5. You are in for a super rude awakening my friend.

    Every western country in the world is bankrupt right now. Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, the UK, Canada and yes even the US.

    It's just a matter of time until they figure it out.

    18 trillion in debt, 200 trillion in entitlement programs, 1.6 quadrillion in OTC derivatives, and 0.2% growth if you call spending growth.

    Do some math. Happy to read anything you want me to read. I read for about 10-12 hours a day.

    I don't know why you don't just move. You have free will. You can change things. All I ever do is read about how you complain about wisconsin and the US. Move somewhere else and be happy.

  6. Blame social safety nets? Bubble world talking points. Economic neoliberal policies did the trick, like here in the U.S.