Thursday, July 31, 2008

The Catholic Church Bishops Undermine All Religions With Petty Authoritarian Rules

I have never bought into the Catholic Church’s nonsense of the use of Latin in their services, talking to God through a middleman, strict ceremonial traditions and the infallible human they call the Pope. Most of these devices can be summed up easily with the term, “golden idol worship.”

Before I knew anything about liberals and conservatives, I wondered why intelligent people looked up to or followed these dictatorial authority figures. I later realized many of these “followers” were very conservative. I would later see this same devotion and allegiance to their political “leaders.” How many times have you heard the political debate switch to the simple phrase, “you just hate Bush (idol)?”

Getting back to Catholics, we have a Bishop problem in Madison Wisconsin (my humble opinion). In a revealing article by Bill Wineke, "Bishop talking nonsense on pill, clergy sex abuse,” we get the straight talk about the twisted, sick thinking of the Roman Catholic church. Wineke writes:


Madison's Roman Catholic Bishop Robert Morlino says he understands the underlying cause of the clergy sex-abuse scandal in his church: the birth control pill … Morlino claims is that widespread disobedience to Pope Paul VI's ban of the pill led to all sorts of depravities, including marital infidelity, pornography, a loss of respect for women, and, most interesting to me, at least, sex abuse by priests.

The bishop said, "Once bishops, priests and others decided that they could use conscience to excuse them from obedience to truth, as taught by the church — when bishops and priests started giving conscience the authority to determine moral truth, rather than obey the truth as taught by the church, it's not surprising that (during those years) some priests and some bishops started to follow their own conscience in terms of sexual misconduct."

To ascribe the biggest scandal in church history to the idea that individuals have no right to form their own conscience is just bizarre. Priests do not molest children because they disagree with Humane Vitae. Priests like all other pedophiles, abuse children because they are sick human beings. Bishops cover up the misdeeds of their church because they fear scandal and because they think the welfare of the ordained is more important than the souls of children.


Wineke makes a good point about a completely absurd theory. But this doesn't let the flock off the hook when it comes to defending this sick doctrine. Here are a few responses to Wineke’s story.

Sandy Wedel, Belt, Mont.: Still, think about it. Artificial contraception dissociates sexual intimacy from the possibility of procreating new human life. This makes sexual behavior simply a pleasurable experience open for anyone to engage in -- be they male and female, male and male, female and female, married, unmarried, in love, strangers, both adults or -- and this is being proposed by some -- between men and boys, the most common behavior of sexually abusive priests.

Well, we certainly wouldn’t want to have a “simply pleasurable experience” would we? And oh yea, we'll leave the last choice for those sick, depraved....

Nick and Kay Ringelstetter, Prairie du Sac: Forty years ago, Pope Paul VI prophetically envisioned many of the effects of contraception on our world, including our lowering of moral standards. His love and concern for all women was obvious in Humanae Vitae. He stated, "Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection."

Assuming that independent women don’t have desires, or want sexual satisfaction in their lives, without having a baby. How odd?

Dale Lawinger, Mineral Point: People like Wineke may not understand why they teach certain things in the Catholic faith. They are in the same group of Catholics who think their faith is what the majority want, not the guidance God promised the Pope to keep the church teaching the truth.

God promised the Pope guidance to teach the truth? THE POPE?

Now here are some lucid readers with a few points of their own.

Jack W. Beschta, Oregon, WI: Prior to the introduction of the pill, was sin caused by the invention of the airplane, discovery of electricity, widespread use of the automobile, indoor plumbing, nuclear energy, the advent of TV, the invention of the wheel or the discovery of fire?

Lee Haas, Madison: Pope Paul VI ignored the recommendations of the Vatican II commission convened to study the birth control issue, and upheld the ban. He followed his conscience. God does not speak to our Catholic hierarchy any more or any less than God speaks to us.

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2 comments:

  1. Democurmudgeon,
    As a former R.C. priest, I assure you that you are absolutely right. One reason that these bishops utter such nonsense is that they don't have to listen to mere mortals like you. They suffer from intellectual "inbreeding", having their stupidity confirmed by talking only to their own peers.
    The pedophilia scandal existed long before the faithful rejected Humanae Vitae. In fact, it was just one of many scandals predicted by one of the great reforming saints, Bernard of Clairvaux, founder of the Trappist monks, who warned the papacy `Take from the (priests of the) Church an honourable marriage and an immaculate marriage bed, and do you not fill it with concubinage, incest, homosexuality and every kind of uncleanness?'"

    If there was a tremendous spike in clerical pedophilia after this sad encyclical, my own guess is that the reason was that there was a huge exodus of the liberals from the clergy, leaving only the conservatives. And as I show at LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/liberals.html the essence of conservatism is selfishness. Check out my entire CatholicArrogance.Org/ web site as well. You'll love it.

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  2. Good point. Conservatism is self serving, anti-democratic. Of course, that's the whole point of my blog (among others). I love to get as much information as possible from those who know religion from the inside. And a liberal perspective is invaluable. I'm a Lutheran, a rebel and open to new observations.

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