Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Conealed Carry Licensed, Law Abiding Citizen Becomes a Killer. That Can't Happen?

This little bit of news for the open carry crazy guy at Obama's town hall meeting yesterday.

Freedom States Alliance:

Yet another concealed weapons permit holder and “legal” gun owner, George Sodini, with no prior criminal record, committed mass murder. On the evening of Aug. 4, Sodini attacked an aerobics class at the LA Fitness gym outside Pittsburgh where he used three handguns, two of which used high-capacity ammunition magazines that could hold up to 30 rounds, to gun down three women and wound nine others before killing himself.

The shooting tragedy is yet another indisputable example that, despite gun lobby rhetoric, “law-abiding” gun owners and carrying concealed permit holders do commit crimes, including homicides and rampage shootings.

Prior to this attack, in 2009 alone, there have been three confirmed mass shootings committed by concealed carry permit holders. In April, Richard Poplawski ambushed four Pittsburgh police officers, fatally shooting three and injuring one. In March, CCW holder Michael McLendon killed 11 people, including the wife of a deputy sheriff, before taking his own life following a gun battle with police in Alabama. In February, CCW holder Frank Garcia killed four people in a shooting rampage in upstate New York.


  1. Back ground checks are backward looking, so of course some concealed handgun permit holders might someday violate a law.

    But that's not what rights are all about - rights are about protected conduct that does not require any license - which is where the constitutional right to open carry comes in - most states require no permit for open carry, and rightfully so.

    Permits? We don't need no stinkin' permits!

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  2. I checked with the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights, and did not see any reference to open carry. If you could supply me with the exact language in the Constitution, that would help.

    Regulation is included in the Second Amendment. Just like the first amendment, reasonable regulation has been court tested, and a right given to states. But of course, reasonable is not the point here is it.

    It's funny how your right, as you see it, infringes on my right as I see it. You're winning by the way.

    So I wouldn't complain. Pretty soon, every nut job who wants a gun will have one, and because you're armed and I'm not, you'll do just fine.

    Thank you for thinking only about yourself.

  3. So in other words, you'd rather run around unarmed, and not worry about all the criminals who DO carry illegally, than let normal law-abiding citizens carry legally, and possibly be in a position to protect themselves and others. Interesting.

    I got news for you, sworn police officers can and have become criminals. Does that mean we have to stop recruiting from the human race? I know, lets build a race of robots and put them in charge of law enforcement. Oops, sorry, our current state of technological advancement won't allow that yet. I guess we'll have to wait another 100 hundred years or so, and have to put up with having flawed humans in charge. Darn.

    As for the 2nd Amendment, I believe the part that says "keep and bear arms" would be the part you're looking for. Sure, it doesn't say anything about open or concealed carry. But "bearing arms" would apply to all forms of carry, concealed or otherwise.