tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post3474770237993207666..comments2024-02-26T17:13:18.702-06:00Comments on DemoCurmudgeon: No Bold Leadership or Solutions: Walker to let the Affordable Care Act crash and burn, taking Wisconsinites with it. Democurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-88521756744780641422015-06-25T20:12:52.793-05:002015-06-25T20:12:52.793-05:00That's 2 years before and no longer relent. I ...That's 2 years before and no longer relent. I stand be the savings vis the instant tax credit. My savings over $3,000.Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-40316700523506206032015-06-25T20:12:24.193-05:002015-06-25T20:12:24.193-05:00That's 2 years before and no longer relent. I ...That's 2 years before and no longer relent. I stand be the savings vis the instant tax credit. My savings over $3,000.Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-80715514604972311002015-06-25T18:12:54.927-05:002015-06-25T18:12:54.927-05:00Here was the promise from Obama on saving $2500 fo...Here was the promise from Obama on saving $2500 for a typical family on insurance premiums.<br /><br />http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/521/cut-cost-typical-familys-health-insurance-premium-/<br /><br />Now anyone with a rational brain would understand he had no hope of keeping that promise, but apparently more than half of the voters have no rational brain in America any more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-71952946809925676922015-06-25T15:49:16.923-05:002015-06-25T15:49:16.923-05:00Send me a link to that or drop the $2500 bs. Never...Send me a link to that or drop the $2500 bs. Never heard that, because that would be ridiculous. It might have been in reference to the money saved per family with the subsidies. That makes sense. <br /><br />"Someone else is paying for it" Lunacy as well, since the money you pay into an insurance company also goes to pay for someone else's health care. Making that comparison ignores the way insurance works, and appears desperate. If companies paying into the ACA is "someone else's money" than you must think corporations are people. Wrong again.<br /><br />The GOP narrative pretends health care premiums weren't rising double digits, which it was. They also argue deductibles are too high. That was a Republican idea, to get people to have skin in the game, and was a part of catastrophic insurance known as health saving accounts. I had them for over 10 years, and every insurer offered lower premiums if I accepted a massive increase in my deductible. I canceled out of HSA's when my deductible exceeded $11,000. Yes, that was before ObamaCare. People just don't know anything about insurance, having gotten their through an employer. <br /><br />Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-40000246312722075962015-06-25T15:36:39.196-05:002015-06-25T15:36:39.196-05:00Who is floating all the debt Walker created?Who is floating all the debt Walker created?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-67405256117346134572015-06-25T10:28:40.296-05:002015-06-25T10:28:40.296-05:00The $2500 figure is what Obama said premiums would...The $2500 figure is what Obama said premiums would decrease by. There was no talk of premiums increasing when the ACA was being passed. But all is well, the Supreme Court has upheld the subsidies for everyone and now we all can get "afforable" healthcare that the government has to subsidize for about 10 million people. Not sure how that is "affordable" if someone else has to pay for it for you. Sounds more like it is not affordable at all, but at least for now China is willing to float our debt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-60147088071300429062015-06-25T00:23:53.088-05:002015-06-25T00:23:53.088-05:00Everyone in GOP states with federal exchanges will...Everyone in GOP states with federal exchanges will most likely drop out without the tax credit. My description is for Wis. and other similar states. And that's what I'm most concerned with. The exchanges will disappear without a fix. The mandate without the exchange will be interesting, and its still a big question mark. <br /><br />Without the subsidies, the other exchanges will go broke due to the dramatic drop in the number insured. Policy premiums will skyrocket as healthy people leave to save money (can't afford the massive increase in premiums-like me). <br /><br />Even though Obama won't sign the agreements suggested by the GOP so far, the whole law will collapse anyway in a couple of years. The subsidies were the honey that brought people in and make it affordable. <br /><br />Premiums will not drop but will still experience slow growth. I don't know where you saw that $2500 figure. The GOP likes to scare people with news of giant increases, but those are not representative. Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-14019085362397435992015-06-24T17:00:46.575-05:002015-06-24T17:00:46.575-05:00"it puts insurance companies back in charge, ..."it puts insurance companies back in charge, to do whatever they want, and you won't have the marketplace competition to lower prices. You also won't have the ability to compare prices in one place. "<br /><br />How would the ruling do any of this? Nothing would eliminate the federal mandate to have insurance, the federal requirements that insurance companies offer policies to everyone, the federal exchanges where you can compare prices in one place, etc. The only thing that would be eliminated is the federal subsidies to those that do not use a state exchange. So people would have to pay for their own insurance but all of the needed reforms would be in place. Obama already promised that premiums would drop by about $2500 so it should be more affordable now to buy your own insurance. You also get to keep your own doctors as well from what I hear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com