tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post3007727843679044472..comments2024-02-26T17:13:18.702-06:00Comments on DemoCurmudgeon: The Liebergrinch who Stole Health Care SavingsDemocurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-44912422703151926632009-12-15T16:18:04.605-06:002009-12-15T16:18:04.605-06:00I don't think so, John. The R's are so dis...I don't think so, John. The R's are so disjointed with the Teabaggers running against the conservatives, I think Obama is a shoo-in.Jack Lohmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10214373845549362680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-40740770511793397372009-12-15T16:06:55.569-06:002009-12-15T16:06:55.569-06:00One more thing. Since I too am a believer in a Med...One more thing. Since I too am a believer in a Medicare part E, I would like to see a CBO estimate of either a single payer system or expanded Medicare. <br /><br />That would put a fork in this idiotic debate.Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-66441593287417491482009-12-15T14:25:37.482-06:002009-12-15T14:25:37.482-06:00I would normally agree with you on this Jack, and ...I would normally agree with you on this Jack, and stand our ground, but a defeat will also weaken the Obama administration and lose Democratic control (or major majorities) in congress. That would mean nothing happens ever. <br /><br />This will force congress to address the cost element later, making for another difficult fight, but leaving it up to the Republicans to dramatically expand the disfunctional private sector would be a killer (literally for many).Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-74161068633465975232009-12-15T10:47:46.203-06:002009-12-15T10:47:46.203-06:00John, I think we have to absolutely KILL the healt...John, I think we have to absolutely KILL the health care reform bill coming from the current congress, and instead expand Medicare to the unemployed. And THEN fight for a Medicare-for-all system. <br /><br />But unfortunately, our politicians are too in-the-pocket of the insurance industry, and however they can leave the industry in the loop going forward will ensure their getting a piece of the healthcare dollar in the future. I don't know whether calling that bribery or kickbacks or payola is more accurate, but none are very pretty.Jack Lohmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10214373845549362680noreply@blogger.com