tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post201630168762520530..comments2024-02-26T17:13:18.702-06:00Comments on DemoCurmudgeon: Indoctrinating College Students. Is that possible? Conservative student who recorded Professor wasn't brainwashed for some reason.Democurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-52163714137189692872011-05-04T23:50:43.810-05:002011-05-04T23:50:43.810-05:00Mr. Demc.
First, thank you as well for your polit...Mr. Demc.<br /><br />First, thank you as well for your polite response. <br /><br />I did not say that a student who was "uncomfortable" confronting a professor was acting rationally. To suggest that this is an old "talking point" doesn't make any sense to me. With this claim do you mean that you cannot respond to it, or that you need not? Saying something is a "talking point" suggests neither that what is said is incorrect nor that it is invalid. All political factions have "talking points," <br /><br />Next, you rightly point out that the story was brought to the attention of most people through "a conservative hit machine." I believe this is where I first heard of the story, too. Again, I wonder, how does the mode in which the story is brought to light make a difference? After all, I learned about Mr. Hopper--who strikes me as a loser--and his "crappy, deliberate transgressions" from liberal blogs. Does this mean that I should dismiss the facts because I don't like the source? Do I think his calls for an "investigation" are over the top--sure, a stupid waste, a ploy. But as I said before, he is a politician and if we were to spend all our time listing the over the top accusations of the last seven months...well, you get the picture. <br /><br />But a classroom should be a space of "clinical distance" and teachers who cannot abide be this moral principle are unprofessional and need to change their ways or leave the profession. While I would not suggest he should be fired, can't you at least admit that some discipline is appropriate? Why do you feel the need to take up for someone with so little professional virtue? Evaluate the man on his actions, not his politics.patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-8037839864106291612011-05-04T23:01:45.624-05:002011-05-04T23:01:45.624-05:00First, the phony idea that a professor would unpro...First, the phony idea that a professor would unprofessionally use a grade to retaliate against a student is old Republican talking point material. This is the myth promoted by David Horowitz. <br /><br />The university reacted because of the conservative "hit" machine known as talk radio, that had latched onto this like a rabid dog, literally. <br /><br />Poor Hopper, who's not living in his district, having an affair, and is a reliable vote (all Republicans are) for a desperately overdue ideological coup. The professor explained the changes Hopper voted for, effecting the UW and jobs. Taking his shots, over the top pot shots is not excusable because of the politically charged atmosphere. They're unreasonable should be reported as such. <br />Thanks for the point of view.Democurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16336177394503335112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7183447461205976739.post-75550868480430617522011-05-04T20:53:36.621-05:002011-05-04T20:53:36.621-05:00There are a few problems here. One is that the stu...There are a few problems here. One is that the student is not paying for a lecture about the lefty view of the Gov's proposal or recalls.He isn't speaking out of some noble desire for justice, but rather simple greed.The professor should stick to the syllabus and deliver the content the student has paid to receive. The second problem is that even in a college classroom, the professor is the one who assigns a grade; therefore, is is natural to assume that many students do not feel comfortable contradicting a professor on a rant. Most were probable quietly waiting for him to shut up and get back to his job. Finally, the university dicided that his actions were in need of some form of discipline and acted. Isn't that clear enough for you that his comments and actions were out of line? I'm sure the majority in the class were happy this student could put an end to the professor's pointless rant. As for Hopper? He's a politician in a politically charged environment; he's going to take his shots--pointless as they may be--when he can.patricknoreply@blogger.com